Round 168: Werewolf's Genesis

May. 19th, 2025 03:55 pm
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elperian: un: cato_neimoidia [tumblr] (st b'elanna rebellion keeps you alive)
[personal profile] elperian
Now for the normal post of thoughts about ST: TOS - S1!

This show has become such an unexpected joy, even while I'm moderating my expectations because - well - the '60s. As the season went on I was more and more intrigued with how the show was interested in playing with gender and gender expectations and - boy howdy - how those Trekkie zine ladies were on the money with Spock and Kirk. At the end of 1.16 'The Galileo Seven' when Spock is safely back on board the bridge, Kirk is fully draping himself by Spock as if he doesn't have a perfectly good command chair not three meters away. Okay, buddy.

I have especially been struck by how much fanon!Kirk diverges from canon!Kirk (at least in S1). Kirk is not a womanizer by any means, which...I would have lost money on that bet, I admit. I'm actually struck by how many times women throw themselves at him while he's either not interested (1.09 'Dagger of the Mind') or the so-called seduction is part of a larger plot (1.13 'The Conscience of the King'). I'm also struck by James Kirk, famine and genocide survivor, who was described as "grim" as an 18 year old cadet by his bully, a "stack of books" by his students, who is deeply focused on food and the responsibilities of command, is good at both chess and poker, and who refuses to become the monsters from his childhood.

I was not expecting James Tiberius Kirk to be a new fave, okay?! But here we are!

A question. Since before your sun burned hot in space and before your race was born, I have awaited a question. )

In descending order of favorite episodes this season (but all these are faves):
  • 1.13 'The Conscience of the King'
  • 1.14 'Balance of Terror'
  • 1.29 'Operation: Annihilate!'
  • 1.25 'The Devil in the Dark'
  • 1.27 'The City on the Edge of Forever'
  • 1.04 'The Naked Time'

  • And now, at last, I can proceed to S2 - and 2.01 'Amok Time' :D
    spikedluv: jessica at typewriter (msw: jessica at typewriter by sarajayech)
    [personal profile] spikedluv
    I have rewatched the next few MSW episodes and I wanted to share some thoughts with you. The eps in question are: 2.04 School for Scandal, 2.05 Sing a Song of Murder and 2.06 Reflections of the Mind.


    all comments back here )


    What are your thoughts on these eps?
    elperian: <user name="elperian"> (xwp my soul will find yours)
    [personal profile] elperian
    Having finished S1 of Star Trek: TOS, I wanted to jump straight into the Weird Thought, which is that the show - particularly in how it centers around KIrk and Spock - strongly reminds me of Xena: Warrior Princess (XWP) and how the latter similarly centered the show around Xena and Gabrielle. This is not to say that ST: TOS doesn't include or feature other main characters, especially Leonard McCoy, but you couldn't - wouldn't - have this show without Kirk and Spock at its center. Episodes largely pivot around how they counterbalance or balance each other and the show makes a point of, when they are not outright paired together in a plot, to have them touch base throughout the episode, be focused on each other throughout the episode, or at least end the episode together.

    At his side, as if you've always been there and always will. )

    Music Monday: The Duck Song

    May. 19th, 2025 07:29 am
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    Minisculus really likes this song.

    elperian: <user name="lullabymoon"> (st una ad astra per aspera)
    [personal profile] elperian
    What a fantastic episode with which to end the first season of Star Trek! Not for Kirk, obviously, who has one of the worst days of his life, but it's great for us as the audience. This episode is also a really good illustration of "Who do I have to be?" in action from Kirk.

    I will accept neither of those alternatives, gentlemen. I cannot let this thing expand beyond this planet, nor do I intend to kill a million or more people to stop it. I want another answer. I'm putting you gentlemen on the hot seat with me. I want that third alternative. )
    elperian: <user name="lullabymoon"> (st una ad astra per aspera)
    [personal profile] elperian
    1.28 ‘The City on the Edge of Forever’ is a pretty intricate plot for this season, with a lot of threads still packed into the 50-minute format. My favorite things include:

    + Edith Wheeler and her dreams of starships; she’s just like us

    + Edith’s (probably very famous line) about Spock belonging next to Kirk, and Kirk belonging somewhere else. This season - the very first! - is going very hard on Spock and Kirk as a matched set.

    + All the respect for Kirk shutting down the male heckler at the food kitchen and saying he wanted to hear what Edith has to say <333

    Interestingly, Spock, Kirk, and McCoy all are returned to their future as soon as Edith dies again - so the guy who took McCoy’s phaser and seemingly phased himself out of existence must ~always have done so~. One can’t help but wonder how he might have played a role in history if those three hadn’t gone back, either.

    Also: It’s the second time travel episode and we’re still in the first season!

    original tags: #pour one out for a real one

    You see the same things that I do. We speak the same language. )
    elperian: un: cato_neimoidia [tumblr] (st b'elanna rebellion keeps you alive)
    [personal profile] elperian
    Not my favorite episode - it was quite hard to watch, actually, especially with the weird-bad fight scenes, though I did find Kirk's conversation with the antimatter guy at the end interesting and worthwhile.

    POST #1

    I’m on 1.27 ‘The Alternative Factor’ and: Everyone in this episode is acting weird. It’s a weird plot, but also everyone is acting weird (especially Kirk and McCoy).

    The cake goes to Spock pretending not to know why someone would be upset when he has made “the logical deduction” that they are a liar. Spock, it’s all fun and games until someone is possessed by their mortal enemy (or something).


    POST #2

    …if this possession/fighting your enemy inside you plot is a metaphor for mental illness of any kind: oh boy howdy, is that badly done!

    lucy-moderatz replied to the Tumblr post: my dad calls that episode “the one where a guy fights himself.” 🤷🏻 it’s an odd one.
    [personal profile] elperian: accurate assessment!

    +++

    [personal profile] anghraine replied to the Tumblr post: I thought it was mediocre at best, J dislikes it even more, and the replay of the terrible effect … lol.
    [personal profile] elperian replied: the terrible effect was terrible, although I liked the “antimatter” guy in the end, but still - it was pretty middling.
    elperian: <user name="elperian"> (stock anne stay away witch!)
    [personal profile] elperian
    I haven't talked about some of the racism in casting issues much yet, mostly because they seem very well acknowledged and then later addressed or corrected by later star trek. Khan is supposed to be an Indian man and is played by Ricardo Montalban, who does a good job in the role but is Mexican and well - reasonable people seem to recognize the problem with this.

    But I was simply not prepared for the Klingons, oh my gosh. I knew there were casting issues but uh: This guy in 1x26 'Errand of Mercy' is in straight-up blackface D:

    cut for images )
    elperian: <user name="softestbullet"> (st guinan I tend bar and I listen)
    [personal profile] elperian
    1.25 ‘The Devil in the Dark’ is good for many reasons, but it also includes the first “I’m a doctor, not a _____” from McCoy :D

    “I’m a doctor, not a bricklayer!”

    I am here for Spock and Kirk being extra about each other’s safety in the tunnels though, and ultimately Kirk treating the Horta like a sentient creature instead of choosing to kill it the second time he meets it.

    It is an absolute fave when scifi chooses to take an “Eugh that thing is a monster! How hideous alien and ugly it is!” and chooses to humanize it.

    lucy-moderatz replied to the Tumblr post: the horta is my beloved. <3

    [personal profile] anghraine replied to the Tumblr post: It’s one of the favorite episodes I mentioned was coming up! I love both Kirk realizing… oh this is an innocent person and the human miners were the devils in the dark and Spock was right, and him browbeating McCoy into treating her, and admittedly, also Spock throwing away his principles when he thinks Kirk is in danger (love the switch between them!). And the Horta herself, my beloved!

    [personal profile] elperian replied: [personal profile] anghraine and lucy-moderatz I’m glad we all love the horta! <333

    [personal profile] elperian replied: but yes, spock and kirk switching positions on the horta was A+++. spock very much wanted to save the horta out of principle but chose kirk without a second’s hesitation when he thought kirk was in danger, and kirk wanted to stop the damage being done and switched positions once he realized the damage wasn’t random violence but something else.
    elperian: <user name="softestbullet"> (st garak bashir sentiment)
    [personal profile] elperian
    Watching 1.24 ‘This Side of Paradise’ and seeing Spock get sprayed with flower spores and suddenly kiss a woman: Oh, it’s a metaphor for hetcomp.

    [personal profile] anghraine replied to the Tumblr post with: Yes! She even says he won’t have a choice about it, which… blech. (Some people think Sudden Heterosexual Spore Cult Spock reveals his true self without inhibitions, and I’m like, no, Spock’s true self without inhibitions is crying about his mom, come on.
    [personal profile] elperian replied: some of these people didn’t take ‘the naked time’ to heart and it shows! also, spock talking about his duty to the ship and to 'that man’…oof. I get why spock seems melancholy about how he had felt 'happy’ for the first time in his life, because the idea of like…just letting go of having to think through everything all the time and just relax could be *incredibly* freeing, but that’s not to say that it was his true self or who he wants to be. even the colony leader was melancholy about the time they lost not being able to do what they had hoped to do.
    [personal profile] anghraine replied: Yup, a drugged spore haze that creates an artificial sense of belonging in the spore cult undoubtedly IS as close to happiness as he’s experienced, but that’s because his life sucks (which IS entirely consistent with “Spock without inhibitions is miserable and crying about continually hurting people who care about him, esp Amanda and Kirk” from “The Naked Time”) not because he secretly wants to be drugged and heterosexual. And yeahhhh tying “I am what I am”/“if there are self-made purgatories, then we all have to live in them” to “that man on the bridge” is UHHHHH. Okay. thisisfine.jpeg (1/2) And yeah, strikingly unlike “The Naked Time,” pretty much everyone here reacts to the spore haze in the same blandly contented, “yay belonging” way regardless of their original personalities or hang-ups (it’s not a great Kirk episode IMO, though I find his seething resentment of Leila and “of course the one I’ve got to break out is Spock, this is going to be painful on multiple levels” very funny, but his realization that he’s up against the same “paradise” with literally everyone is correct!), and individuality is primarily revealed in how they react afterwards: some are /shrug, some like Elias are regretful, some like Spock are shaken, some are angry. (And of course, there’s Leila wanting to go back to the spores with Spock because she knows he’d never actually consent for real…) (2/2)
    [personal profile] elperian replied: the purgatories line! being with kirk but not actually being able to be with kirk as his captain? there’s a lot to unpack there. and yes, good note on how everyone acts roughly the same when drugged, except for mccoy’s georgia accent getting ramped up to 200% for some reason. it is interesting that kirk didn’t really need spock to initiate the irritating signal that broke everyone else out - but in the event it didn’t work, he’d already made sure spock was free and by his side. INTERESTING. (1/2) oh! oh! and saying this is the “true” spock seems to overlook the way he just…refuses to give her his whole name. “you couldn’t pronounce it” is a polite way of saying no, but when he’s not spored-up, he doesn’t share himself with her. (2/2)

    star trek: tos - 1.22 'space seed'

    May. 7th, 2025 08:54 pm
    elperian: <user name="haybalemaze"> (st chakotay b'elanna les maquis)
    [personal profile] elperian
    I watched 1.22 ‘Space Seed’ a couple days ago but was too tired to finish writing up my thoughts. This is the episode that introduces both Khan and the Eugenics Wars of the 1990s, and it’s interesting to see how much of the groundwork for later history is introduced here.

    You are an excellent tactician, Captain. You let your second in command attack while you sit and watch for weakness. )
    elperian: un: cato_neimoidia [tumblr] (st b'elanna rebellion keeps you alive)
    [personal profile] elperian
    1x21 ‘The Return of the Archons’ introduces the prime directive only for Kirk to be like “doesn’t apply here, according to me”.

    Also, shout-out to that one Starfleet officer who wanted justice for Tula and tried to get it for her :/

    [May 18, 2025 Update: This episode is actually quite hard to look back upon, because of all the unbridled violence and the story treatment of Tula.]

    [personal profile] anghraine replied to the Tumblr post: I love how little it matters in TOS, tbh! And especially here; almost every reference to it is actually to the “evil” Prime Directive programmed into Landru but disastrous because he can’t think critically about why it exists or how to implement it beyond a kind of rigid and literal enactment, which seems rather significant! Kirk and Spock’s redefinition of the Prime Directive as the true common good of people / destroying oppressors and the parallel to their understanding of the Starfleet Prime Directive seems to have been totally forgotten by later ST, unfortunately.
    [personal profile] elperian replied: agreed about spock and especially kirk’s understanding of the Prime Directive, and the repeated usage of “Prime Directive” with respect to landru’s directive emphasizes the way that such a directive can be narrowly interpreted and used for ill instead of good. kirk even says “that [the Prime Directive] refers to a living, growing culture.” by some definitions, and some later versions of ST, they *shouldn’t* have interfered, because any version of culture is their own, but TOS seems to understand that the Prime Directive isn’t as hard and fast as it’s later made out to be. it reminds me of early stargate: sg1 when daniel tries not to interfere with an attempted rape on flimsy Prime Directive grounds (even though there is no such PD in SGU and it’s just lifted from wholesale) while the others want to stop it. as the episode opens up, it turns out the others were right, and non-interference isn’t this gold standard. (1/3) it is also perhaps significant that ‘return of the archons’ is the first even borderline “alien” culture the enterprise encounters - the people in 'miri’ were just earth people somehow duplicated on the other side of the galaxy, and most of the other interactions have been with united earth colonies - except for the gorn, and the romulans (2/3) * also the culture in ‘galileo seven’, whom we don’t really see, but whom spock demonstrates respect for. (3/3)
    elperian: <user name="lullabymoon"> (st una ad astra per aspera)
    [personal profile] elperian
    I finished 1x19 ‘Tomorrow is Yesterday’, Star Trek’s first time travel episode :) It was solid, although I find the conceit of reversing time for everyone else to be a strange choice (in terms of space-time dynamics). How does everyone else on the Enterprise remember everything that happened if people transported back to earth forget what happened in their own timeline?

    It is a classic (perhaps setting the standard) use of U.S. military bases in time travel episodes, and I’m glad that Sulu is getting more regular screentime between this and 'arena’. It’s interesting to watch the core cohesive cast come together, especially as the yeoman filter in and out of episodes.

    Also, all of these people are clocking Spock as an alien super fast. His ears aren’t even that noticeable unless you know to look for them! Is it the bowl cut? Is the bowl cut giving away that he’s a Vulcan? he does have the great response to the pilot’s line of “I never believed in little green men” with “neither did I’ - A+ delivery, Spock, you never fail me.
    elperian: <user name="softestbullet"> (st garak bashir sentiment)
    [personal profile] elperian
    “I object to you. I object to intellect without discipline. I object to power without constructive purpose.”

    You tell him, Spock!

    (I am on 1x17 ‘The Squire of Gothos’, and the squire is forcibly reminding me of Q, tbh - and for those who missed my TNG watch years ago, I hate Q.)

    lucy-moderatz replied to the Tumblr post with: the force of kirk’s heart eyes at that moment was staggering.
    [personal profile] elperian replied: the camera made sure to zoom in super close too ^_^

    +++

    [personal profile] anghraine replied to the Tumblr post with: One of my absolute favorite Spock quotes and moments (and I see I’m not the only one to notice that Kirk’s reaction suggests it’s also one of Kirk’s favorite Spock quotes! I realize it’s not especially cinematic but I choose to believe their chess dates—*cough* I mean regularly scheduled tactical practice exercises—sometimes involve stopping altogether for earnest philosophy discussions)
    [personal profile] elperian replied: when he said it I thought of you! and I wholeheartedly agree, although I think philosophy discussions permeate all their rec time together (chess dates, meals, everything else in between). if janeway and chakotay get to have regular dinners together, I can believe that spock and kirk do too - even if spock finds enjoying meals ‘sensualist’, he would do it for kirk, who eats anything that spock doesn’t want.

    star trek: tos - 1.15 'shore leave'

    May. 1st, 2025 12:45 am
    elperian: <user name="softestbullet"> (st garak bashir sentiment)
    [personal profile] elperian
    Watching 1x15 ‘Shore Leave’: I’m no fool, I’ve seen a lot of Star Trek - that’s not the original McCoy that we got back! It’s a new one! Fabricated by this planet! You can’t fool me, I’ve seen Voyager!

    [May 18, 2025 Update: This episode also features bonus implied BTS Spock/Kirk massages, Spock tricking Kirk into taking a break after the back-to-back intensity of 'The Conscience of the King' and 'Balance of Terror', and more backstory of Kirk as a "grim" cadet at age 18 (5 years after Tarsus IV). It has some weird stuff, but this is ST, after all. I am a little >_< over the yeoman who was so eager to switch into princess gear, but I guess it is shore leave, after all.]
    elperian: <user name="lullabymoon"> (st una ad astra per aspera)
    [personal profile] elperian
    I just finished 1x14 'Balance of Terror' and: what a great episode! It's both great writing and does a wonderful job of show-not-tell of Kirk's strategic intelligence. We've seen him play chess against Spock (and outmaneuver him into checkmate) but this is a whole episode of Kirk going up against a Romulan - someone he's never met - and winning in a repeated game event. I really appreciate that Kirk is a genius, and this episode was great for that.

    It was also great for showing the burdens of command and how well Spock and Kirk work together (as also mirrored in the same setup in SNW). Plus, even though Bones opposed the decision to go after the romulan spaceship, he still comforts Jim when he expresses doubts about himself in a quite nice speech. I remain fixated on Shatner watching Kelley in this scene - it's such a theater-rooted framing I'm obsesssssssed.

    Bonus material of Kirk shutting down more crew bigotry against Spock (sigh) and setting the precedent for if someone is getting married at the start of a ST episode, it's going to be a very bad day.

    original tags: #also wild that the romulan commander is played by the same actor as sarek

    lucy-moderatz replied to the Tumblr post with: still my favorite episode of tos. it’s such an amazing episode.
    [personal profile] elperian replied: it is so well crafted from start to finish

    +++

    [personal profile] lirazel replied to the Tumblr post with: love that one!!!! also love mark lenard!!!

    +++

    [personal profile] anghraine replied to the Tumblr post with: I know I already told you, but I adore it so much - thematically, the melancholy of fighting a war with people you haven’t seen without clearly knowing why you’re even fighting it, the gradual mutual realization of Kirk and the commander of how similar they and their circumstances are, how gorgeously shot it is, the vulnerability of different characters for their own highly characteristic reasons, Nimoy’s and Shatner’s fantastic performances in (particularly) the racist workplace hostility scene… an episode of all time, really. (1/2) (It did make the “Spock isn’t dealing with REAL racist aggression in TOS, he gives as good as he gets and it’s not about bigotry per se” fandom takes I’ve seen even more baffling, but kudos to *checks hand* the writers in 1966 for being actually very clear that Spock’s experiences are Really Truly About Bigotry + racism in the workplace should be shut down hard. I really appreciate how we see that Spock retains his dignity but is actually upset, and then how stunned he is when Kirk turns his capacity for menace on Stiles - I felt like this may be the first time in his life that someone has defended him from bigotry so clearly and indignantly.) (2/2)
    [personal profile] elperian replied: it was incredibly well done on all fronts! I can see why it’s one of your favorites (and a fan favorite). (1/2) I do not get these takes *at all*. what show are they watching?! even mccoy’s workplace racism is clearly racism, but to miss cases like this episode’s where spock is clearly reacting to it (and to kirk’s defense of him) as attacks is next-level ostriching. (2/2)
    elperian: <user name="softestbullet"> (st guinan I tend bar and I listen)
    [personal profile] elperian
    'The Conscience of the King' is easily my first fave episode of ST: TOS and I made five separate posts about it over on Tumblr. I also really love this fanvid of it, but I am still thinking about it nearly 3 weeks later. What a great episode, on almost all fronts, and I look forward to rewatching it with a friend soon.

    ***

    make it a love song. just something to reassure me I'm not the only living thing left in the universe, huh?  )

    + Bonus notes: Uhura singing! All the themes about memory and intuition and [chewing glass] Lenore playing Kirk as he plays her and [picking up the thousand photos of Kirk now falling out of my fangirl book] and Kirk choosing to connect with Spock and Riley instead of isolating himself and that being what saves them all.

    Favorite Lines:

    LENORE: Who are you to say what harm was done?
    KIRK: Who do I have to be?

    *

    MCCOY: Mr. Spock, the man on top walks a lonely street. The chain of command is often a noose.
    SPOCK: Spare me your philosophical metaphors, doctor.

    *

    MCCOY: What if you decide that he is Kodos? What then? Do you play God, carry his head through the corridors in triumph? That won’t bring back the dead, Jim.
    KIRK: No. But they may rest easier.

    *

    KIRK: You're an actor now. What were you twenty years ago?
    KARIDIAN: Younger, Captain. Much younger.
    KIRK: So was I. But I remember.

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